Free Speech! (Just not here.)

I don’t often post about the events that take place as part of the Mill Avenue Resistance, but I think maybe I should write more about them. This week, I was inspired to write by renewed threats from the preachers.

At times they have seemed to respect our constitutionally protected right to free speech, but other times they have been anything but supportive of our right to speak, at least if it interferes with their preaching. Yesterday was an “anything but” day.

Although they have previously accused us of “obstructing their free speech”, and we suspect that they have been looking for ways to get rid of us for a while, last night was the first time they actually directly expressed to us a seemingly real desire to get a “restraining order” (in this case it would actually be a “Harassment Order” or an “Injunction Against Harassment”) against us.

They may just be trying to scare us off since they know that we’ve gone out of our way to stay within legal limits, but their intent in either case is to prevent what is essentially a protest against their activities.

It is not at all unusual for certain preachers to make sarcastic or mean spirited remarks at us (one of them repeatedly shouting “Shut up, Satan!” was one of my favorites), and some of our members have on occasion made their own unkind remarks, but our general policy is not to attack the people, just the messages and tactics. We are not there for any specific person or group, and we will happily argue the merits of any religion with anyone who is loudly preaching at the masses while we are around.

The funny thing is, it only seems to be fundamentalist Christians doing it, and it’s usually the same group. We have, however, run into other groups doing the same thing and we have treated them all in the same way.

We are not against any of the individual preachers, and we have nothing to do with them when they are not preaching. We don’t follow them home, we don’t go to their churches and harass them, we don’t do anything to them but counter the things they preach while they are preaching.

Still, they seem to think that it is a personal vendetta and that our actions constitute harassment rising to the legal level required for an injunction. They said they wished they had a tape recorder going to provide evidence in support of their attempt to get an order against us, but what evidence would that be? We freely admit to what we are doing, and it is not in any way illegal.

For anyone concerned that we or another group may be vulnerable to one of these Injunctions Against Harassment, the following list should show the emptiness of their threats under Arizona law.

For the purpose of an Injunction Against Harassment, the law defines harassment as a series of acts that does all of the following:

  • Can be spread over a long or short period of time;
  • Must be directed at a specific person;
  • Must seriously alarm, annoy, or harass the victim without serving a legitimate purpose;
  • Must be acts that would cause a reasonable person to suffer substantial emotional distress; and
  • Must actually cause the victim to suffer substantial emotional stress.

In addition to talking to these poor abused preachers, we also hand out our own tracts, we talk to the crowd on our own, we have much more civil debates with more reasonable Christians, we have one on one conversations with random people who come by, and we even try to bring a bit of fun into the equation. This is not a campaign of harassment, it is a campaign of education.

We know that we are expressing views which are very unpopular in many circles, and even the majority of Americans disagree with us today, but most of the non-religious people we talk to are as sick as we are of having religious preachers yell at them week after week unopposed, and they appreciate what we are doing on their behalf. They want a voice too, and we will continue to give it to them.

One of the preachers is very fond of saying “We’re here to preach, not debate!”, and I think that statement is very telling. They want people to hear their side, unadulterated by the truth.

Sorry preacher-man, the right to speak freely is not the right to be the only voice heard.

Spore Criticised by ‘Militant Atheists’?

As the world of video games collides once again with religion, an article over at Eurogamer has the blogosphere abuzz with scorn for atheists who appear intolerant of a video game. Well, it’s not really the original article that’s getting people fired up, it’s the snippets taken out of context from the interview.

What is Spore? Spore is a video game for multiple platforms that combines elements from real time strategy, life simulation and “god” games. You follow the evolution of your creature from a single-cell organism to a vast civilization of advanced beings. Scheduled for a US release on September 7, 2008, the game has been highly anticipated for years.

In the original article, Will Wright describes himself as an atheist and said that, generally, the majority of atheists had no problem with the way religion was portrayed in the game. He said that even religious people didn’t have a problem with it, either. Oddly it was those he termed ‘militant atheists’ who had the most negative reaction. Unfortunately, Wright doesn’t go into specifics as to why the ‘militant atheists’ had issues with the game. There have been suggestions that it was either the “supernatural” powers that were given to religious civilizations or the fact that religion wasn’t specifically named in the original game design. What were first represented as ‘cultural’ influences later were termed ‘religion’.

Creator Will Wright chimed in on the issue within the same thread:

As you might know I’ve been very interested in using Spore to motivate an interest in science. At the same time we want to make a fun, humorous, playful game. The superpowers in the game were added both to make early decisions you make in the game (cell, creature, tribe) continue to have consequence in the later levels and also to add more humor and playfulness to the overall experience.

If you look at the Civ superpowers they are more realistic for the economic and Military strategies than they are for the religious. We could have labeled the religious powers differently (maybe enhanced memetic transmission or fundamentalist jihad) and given them the same rough effect but they would have felt a bit more gritty and out-of-character with the rest of the game.

Possibly adding weight to the ‘militant atheist’ criticisms, earlier in the year notable atheist PZ Meyers challenged use of the term “evolution” being applied to this game, referring to it instead as Intelligent Design. You, the player, are forcing the eventual destiny of your creature instead of leaving it up to natural selection. One could argue that it’s still evolution by artificial selection, but I digress.

Although this squabble is really a non-issue, I felt the need to point out that some people have been running with the idea that Spore was being trashed by atheists simply by having religion in the game. Although it grieves me that some people would have anything negative to say about this game (one that I’ve been waiting a VERY LONG TIME to play), there are obvious limitations within the game that someone interested in pure science would find annoying. But, after all, it’s a game and it’s meant to be fun.

Waiting millions of years for your creature to evolve into space exploration might not be exciting enough for everyone.

ASU Secular Free Thought Society Version 2.0

September 4, 2008
5:30 pmto7:00 pm

This semester at ASU we will be restarting the Secular Free Thought Society. This is a group for people who are tired of being told how and what to think by the mass media and religious organizations that have infiltrated every level of American life.

If you have an open mind and want to meet others with similar viewpoints then we invite you to join us.

We will be planning various events throughout the year that include:

  • Countering the spread of narrow-minded religious thought
  • Various outings with other Secular/Atheist groups in the valley
  • The Mill Avenue Resistance
  • Fun Halloween and Winter Parties
  • Plus many more various events

To get more information on the group and how to connect with us, e-mail Brian.Key@asu.edu.

We hope to see you there and remember:

NEVER STOP THINKING!!!

Ok, so the first meeting has been tenativly set! W00T. It Will be Thursday, September 4th at 5:30PM. It will be in the MU Somewhere, so far, we will meet at Sparkey’s Den (The Arcade in the basement). I will have a room reserved before then, and that will be posted on this site, as well as the myspace and livejournal. Hope to see all the old faces again and plenty of new ones

Details on what will go on during the first meeting will come shortly!

Freedom of Speech?

Why is it that freedom of speech is only applicable to certain groups and in certain situations? Why can one group’s emblems and symbols be deemed offensive and other be deemed ok? Finally, how can one group of people’s beliefs obstruct this “protected right” just because they happen not to think in the same manner? I pose these questions to all of you in the hopes that it will make everybody think.

Now for the actual blog.

Recently, I had a rather unpleasant encounter with the suspension of freedom of expression. Those that know me have seen my tattoo. The Bad Religion symbol that is ever present on my right arm. My goal of getting this tattoo was two-fold. One, Bad Religion has been one of my favorite bands for a long time, and I greatly respect the member’s intelligence and logic. Secondly, I am a very hardcore Atheist, and am not ashamed or scared to say so. I thought that this would be a great way to pay homage to a great band as well as make a strong statement that i am not ashamed to be a free-thinking Atheist. Well, today I came face to face with the reality of true closed-mindedness. I was at work, like any normal day, when I receive a surprise call from the Human Resources Department. I was asked to come and have a conversation with one of the HR representatives. I was told that a customer had complained to the store manager about the symbol that was tattooed on my arm. Frankly, I was pretty surprised, even though looking back at how much shit I took from theists when I didn’t have the tattoo, I really should not have been. The more and more that we talked, the more I realized that I was going to have to cover it up for work from now on. I left the first meeting with the HR Representative a little pissed off. I really did start my thinking process though for this blog and now for many more. I was called into the office one more time before I left, and told I would have to cover the tattoo starting tomorrow when I reported for work. Needless to say, I was pissed. I did my best (and Succeeded) not to blow up on the HR representative, because it was not her fault. I left that meeting feeling very angry and also feeling as if my rights were violated.

This is where the 3 questions that I posed earlier come into play. Why is it that freedom of speech is only applicable to certain groups and in certain situations. Yes, I know that I was at work and a different set of rules tend to apply in the professional world. I also work at a place that values diversity and this tattoo was technically not against any policy that we currently have in place. There are people at my work that have tattoos of crosses, the crescent and star, and the Star of David: None of which have ever been told that they must cover them up. Would it be fair if they had to cover up their symbols of faith and belief? Of course not. This is protected under the first amendment and by the workers handbook at my place of business. I feel as if there is a different set of rules for those that believe in something and those that do not. If somebody lodged a complaint against these tattoos, they would not have to cover them, citing our religious diversification policy. Atheists are not protected under this policy, because we are not seen as a religion (Which is true, we are not a religion). Would I have to cover this up outside of the workplace? Never, because I am protected by freedom of speech. If someone told me to cover it up outside of my workplace, I would tell them to go fuck themselves and utterly refuse to do so. This restriction of belief seems to set a very dangerous precedent that it is ok to express your views about certain systems of belief at work and not ok to do so about others.

Secondly, why can one group’s symbols be deemed offensive and another’s be deemed ok? My symbol, which I took from a great band, has been deemed too offensive to work with. What?! Oh yeah, the ss and the Swastika Tattoo the guy that came to the store had on was soooooooo much less offensive, many people complained and yet he was not asked to leave, or even talked to. Why? Because as much as I and many others may despise it, it is still constitutionally protected. In this case, my Bad Religion Tattoo was deemed more offensive than a Nazi symbol. Wow, the dangerous presidents seem to be stacking up!

Finally, how can one group of people’s beliefs obstruct this “protected right” just because they happen not to think in the same manner? My right to have this tattoo has effectively been taken away by people that do not think the same way that I do. It is very evident that the Christian front is still controlling too much of the country if every time they think something is wrong; they get to change it, either directly or indirectly. I would never expect a person to cover up a tattoo of a cross, or the Star of David, or a picture of Jesus, because I have no right to tell them to do so. Apparently, the First amendment is something that these fundamentalists use only for their own gain and do not respect people of different viewpoints under the same standard. They cry and protest when their rights are infringed, but will turn around and prevent others from speaking their mind too. This is truly the hypocrisy of democracy.

Lastly, I want to say that this group is now even more important to me, and I clearly see why we are necessary in the world today

NEVER STOP THINKING AND NEVER THINK YOU ARE USELESS OR INSIGNIFICANT

Brian James Key

Sympathy for the Pharaoh

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Sympathy for the Pharaoh Tract - Side 1

Sympathy for the Pharaoh Tract - Side 2

Side 1: Sympathy for the Pharaoh

What if Allah were the one true god, and he was mad at our president for invading and occupying Afghanistan and Iraq?

What if Allah told George W. Bush to let his people have their lands back and to leave the middle east? Do you think that Bush would obey?

What if Allah made sure that Bush did not obey, even if he wanted to, just so he would have an excuse to demonstrate his godly powers by tormenting and killing large parts of the US population?

What if Allah sent plagues across our whole country turning all of our water to blood, killing the fish and other aquatic life in our lakes and rivers, killing most or all of our farm animals, horribly tormenting us all with boils that don’t heal and swarms of insects, all because Bush wouldn’t do what he wanted?

What if you, or your oldest brother or sister, and the oldest children of everyone you know — of every person and animal in the entire country — was suddenly killed one night just to prove to the president that Allah is powerful?

Side 2: Sympathy for the Pharaoh

1 And the LORD said unto Moses, Go in unto Pharaoh: for I have hardened his heart, and the heart of his servants, that I might shew these my signs before him:

2 And that thou mayest tell in the ears of thy son, and of thy son’s son, what things I have wrought in Egypt, and my signs which I have done among them; that ye may know how that I am the LORD.

- Exodus 10:1-2 (KJV)

Would that be right? Would that make him a just and kind god? Wouldn’t it be even worse if Bush were not just our president who we could remove from power, but our king whose actions we had no control over at all?

The people of ancient Egypt had no choice in their rulers, yet these plagues are exactly what the god of the Bible does to the Egyptian people in the Exodus story. He also makes it clear that he wants to do it to demonstrate his power, and to make sure he can do these horrible things with (flimsy) justification, he "hardens the Pharaoh’s heart" and proves that he is the instigator as well as the architect of this horror show.

If this story were true and the Bible’s cruel and vain god were real, would you want to worship him?

Mill Resistance – August 2008

July 26, 2008
8:00 pm
August 2, 2008
8:00 pm
August 9, 2008
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August 16, 2008
8:00 pm
August 23, 2008
8:00 pm
August 30, 2008
8:00 pm

What is the Mill Resistance?

If you’ve been on Mill this summer, you probably know that it’s been a bit slow, and often less fun and interesting than it was in the spring, but that is going to change shortly.

Late August is when ASU’s classes start again, so in a few weeks we should be back to full strength, and beyond as we gain more new recruits!

That is not to say that we shouldn’t bother until then. The times when things are a little less crazy give us a good chance to hone our skills and make plans for the future! If you haven’t been coming out and you’re considering it, now would be a good time to start.